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The Kellys: Winners of the 2007 Lamey Award

By: Bob Mackey



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December 27, 2007

Note: The following outrage-based update is not meant to replace my usual weekend Valley 24 blogs that are read and replied to by millions.

CORRECTION: Trevor Quillian is not the mastermind behind ruKus radio nor is he the mastermind behind anything else.  He does, however, give very stupid quotes during website interviews.  As does his buddy, Moe Angelo.  Let's laugh at them together.  But don't laugh too hard, because comedy can sometimes be offensive and we can't have that.

I don’t mean to pick on anyone; it’s just that I have a Spidey-sense for hypocrisy and lameness—which I guess isn’t working too well, since I’m responding to this nearly two weeks after the fact.  On December 19th, Valley 24 posted an article titled “ruKus radio provides musical alternative,” in which members of The Kellys talk about their Internet radio show.  No big deal.  Nerd rage levels are undetectable at this point.  Let’s look at some fun quotes. 

“We’re spanning all genres,” Angelo said. “I don’t care what it sounds like. I just love having the freedom of playing whatever the f#$& I want.” 

Just a touch of embarrassing self-importance and WHOA LOOK OUT FOR THAT F-BOMB I JUST DROPPED, GUYS.  That’s how on the edge and independent they are: they’ll use swears anytime they want.  I don’t even think I’m allowed to swear on here (Actually, I'm not.  I had to go back and edit this when the blog software refused to let me quote the dreaded f-word from an article published on the front page.), but then again I don’t use the f-word with the attitude of, “Yeah, mom.  I’ll clean my room when I’m good and ready!”  Here is another quote for you: 

“Our mission is to further every single person’s mind in the world,” Quillan said. 

Whoaaaa, slow down there, moonbeam.  Just because you run an Internet radio station doesn’t mean that our third eyes will open with the assistance of Tool, a bottle of Robitussin, and a silly straw.  But, still, I admire these dudes’ spirit; they’re trying to change the world and they don’t care who knows it.  And hey, maybe they’ll say the f-word again.  You may just have to deal with it.  Square. 

But SCREEEEEECH someone just pulled the lame brakes on the nonconformist train! 

Regarding their choice of topics, he said, “There are some things we just don’t want to touch. We prefer not to offend mass groups of people if at all possible. Even in humor, people still become offended.”
 

Now, compare this quote to another one within the very same article:

"Blasting forth with complete disregard for the mainstream"

So they’re going to totally blow our minds within the realm of mass-market acceptability?  Congratulations, fellas, you just completely contradicted yourself without even knowing it!  After all, furthering minds is all about not challenging people and telling them exactly what they want to hear and—is that Dave Matthews in the background?  Why, even my mom can jam out to those beats! Oh, and you also managed to insult me personally by implying that there should be limits to humor.  I don’t even feel the need to explain why that statement is completely wrong and terrible, or why you are equally wrong and terrible.  Your "Blasting forth with complete disregard for the mainstream" agenda seems a little confused in that your mission is the complete opposite of that.

So, congratulations, The Kellys, as winners of December 2007’s Lamey Award, you are officially the Wal-Mart of music.  I’ll be awfully disappointed if you boys aren’t wearing slacks and proper haircuts if I ever see you in concert.  And my grandma's knitting circle knows all about that swear word you used on the Internet; they’re awfully disappointed in you.

120 comments


Comments

By moestradamus ( moestradamus )

hahahaha Weak arguments abound. Go ahead with the rad blogs, there Bob. Catch you on the flip.

-m

By TrevorQuillan ( anonymous )

Ok, great, so you are the BEST blogger in the world, i bet your mom upstairs is cooking you your favorite meal for winning this award... glad you had time to step away from you game of Dungeons and Dragons and were able to write such a well thought out blog..

now correct if i am wrong... but if i am going to talk smack on someone, i would first do my research as any good 3rd grader would do... upon such research i would discover that "Moonbeam" is not apart of the band The Kellys, and i would also take a moment to actually listen to the podcasts and note there is no Tool, DMB, or Robotussin... so stick your blogging silly straw up your A$$...

Seriously Bob, there is one thing that i have always tried to do... its called thinking before sh1tting out of my mouth... or finger in this case..

another thing Bob, or Captain Bloggin Bob, I, "Moonbeam," wish to file an inquiry as to why you would pull someone down who is trying to bring something up... the reason why Youngstown has been surround by unintelligent life for such a long time is due, in part, to people like you...

why such a negative outlook on people such as myself? One to many Star Trek conventions? Did the liquid latex from the Klingon make-up work its way into your blood stream? or are you just a down right ignorant prick...

Sorry Bloggin Bob, or Captain Douche, for my in experience of blogging, and my very bad grammar and typo's.... hope the Gods of D&D will forgive me and set me with enough experience points to level up....

Next time do some research before you comment on someone else... because...

I am Trevor Quillan
Go F*ck Yourself.....
2007

By bobservo ( Bob Mackey )

i'm surprised you get the internet all the way out there on the edge

By gmby1 ( anonymous )

I have known a few pompous asses in my life, but you are a "Personified Pompous Ass!"

Does you Mother still color-code your clothes for you! And write the days on the week on your underwear so you won't get mixed up????

Have you ever had one thought of your very own......or have you always followed what is call "THE NORM"

Stop blogging so much and actually research at least one subject so you can have a "real" original thought about something!

Sweetheart, I think the reward belongs to you!!!!!

gmby1(aka Deby)

By moestradamus ( moestradamus )

What the f*ck is the internet?!

Oh we definitely get it out here on the edge. The signal is much stronger than what it must be in the basement.

Stay tuned, there, Bob. You'll see just how strong the hardline to the internet is out here on the edge.

-m

By TrevorQuillan ( anonymous )

we will sell you the whole seat, but you will only need the edge...

"MoonBeam"

By bobservo ( Bob Mackey )

instead of making unfounded claims about people's personal lives, i choose to judge them by what they say (hence, the above article). that being said, you're making this very easy. your ridiculous hypocrisy is right there on the front page for everyone to see, so i'm not sure why you're trying to backpedal.

i have nothing against you personally, but those quotes about ruKus radio were trite and asinine and it made your product look very lame.

By gmby1 ( anonymous )

Geez.........maybe you should research unfounded claims before you open your yap!!!

By callica ( anonymous )

Bob I don't know who you are but I'd have to say the lame person here is the one who took the article and disected it word for word. Now thats lame. I also take offence to your image of Moms..I'm a Mom and I say fu~k and I don't listen to Dave Matthews...everything is not so black & white..the people your ditching on here have done alot for the valley over the summer & want to continue despite idiots like you who try and stand in their way. The world needs more, "Moonbeams" and less people like you!

By TrevorQuillan ( anonymous )

Bob do you do any research about anything? you would find that i am not the mastermind behind ruKus... we work together as a family, and as you can see, my family backs me and i do them... seriously man, start to realize what you say before you say it, RESEARCH dumb a$$

could i spell it out any better for you?

T

By RebeccaRoo ( anonymous )

Wow, we have quite the little war of words going here, don't we?

Chill out kids. It's a BLOG, for F*cks sake, not the winner of the Pulitzer Prize for investigative journalism.

By gmby1 ( anonymous )

Roo, I don't know what to say! You should have given just a tad more thought to your entry!

By bobservo ( Bob Mackey )

the piece on the front page implies that you ARE in charge of things, trevor. i'll admit that the article is poorly-written; you can blame sarah poulton for that AND for allowing your quotes to contradict each other. that didn't make you guys look very good.

but the fact of the matter is i don't care who runs the radio program. with my blog, i only wanted to point out the hilarity behind the trite and hypocritical philosophy behind rukus radio. in all of your problems with my writing, it's very interesting how you never mentioned that i'm basically just commenting on quotes pulled from the article--quotes from both you and angelo. my only issue with rukus radio is its lame, mass market sensibilities poorly masked in an "alternative" shell. it's insulting, which is why i decided to write about it.

while you're busy presuming that i live with my mom and play d&d, there's very concrete evidence--in print--that you made a complete ass of yourself.

keep using those ellipses!

By RebeccaRoo ( anonymous )

You know what, Gmby, you're right.
I should have given that more thought.
I should have said:
You know what, Bob, you're right. How lame and poser-ish for the Kellys and Trevor not to want to alienate their listeners. I know - they should spend their next shows making fun of pediatric AIDS patients. Yes, that will certainly put them on the fastest train out of lameville.

In addition, I fail to see how wanting to "further the minds of everyone in the world" is mutually exclusive with "not wanting to offend mass groups of people". Reaching people through music - wow, what an innovative thought? Why hasn't anyone else come up with that idea? Oh wait...

Now, I'm not comparing anyone to Lennon or anything, but isn't that very idea the reason why musicians (at least the better ones) play music in the first place? Hell, isn't it why people LISTEN to music? If the music you listen to doesn't, in some way, touch your soul or "further your mind", then you must looooove 'N Sync, Jessica Simpson, et al.

In closing, I want to clarify my earlier remark. Now, I know that certain people are trying to give the scene in YO a big ol' steroid boost. Kudos to them, it needs done. And shame on you, Mackey, for berating them for doing so. So it wasn't the best interview ever given. That shouldn't come as a shock, given the publication. But to hurl insults their way (as only you can) does nothing to help Youngstown, the scene, or the musicians. It also makes valley24.com look like it doesn't have it's shi* together, since the first thing you see when you type in the web address is a flash promo for the "Bridge the Gap" show on the 29th. My earlier point was just this: It's just a local blog. You guys shouldn't give a flying f-bomb about this drivel.

By TrevorQuillan ( anonymous )

My friend, you have crossed borders of civility... like i said before...

I AM

TREVOR QUILLAN

GO F*ck YOURSELF

www.myspace.com/rukusradio
read the newest blog

IN REPLY TO...........................

CORRECTION: Trevor Quillian is not the mastermind behind ruKus radio nor is he the mastermind behind anything else. He does, however, give very stupid quotes during website interviews. As does his buddy, Moe Angelo. Let's laugh at them together. But don't laugh too hard, because comedy can sometimes be offensive and we can't have that.

By bobservo ( Bob Mackey )

welp, i guess we learned today that humor can offend people.

I AM

BOB MACKEY

By TrevorQuillan ( anonymous )

i believe this has stretched far beyond humor my friend... do you need a hug?

By moestradamus ( moestradamus )

Your "humor" doesn't work when there is no factual basis. Come on man, you didn't even make it to the end of the original article, where KELLY from THE KELLYS is quoted. And it says SHE. How can you rip on something that you know ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT. And, way to not answer any questions posed in the response. I guess you just have none. So continue to defend your weak attempt at humor. Sorry, it just wasn't funny.

-m

By unfire ( anonymous )

Oh god. It's a funny satirical article, and you're not taking it well. If you will blast forth with complete disregard for the mainstream you're pretty soon going to have to get used to criticism. Rather than nancying on about it.

The sad thing, really, is to read you all so ego-obsessed. Have a radio show and introduce people to new music, great! But at every turn it's all about what YOU'RE going to do for people. Get over yourselves, maybe. I don't perceive any passion for music, just posturing without end.

By TrevorQuillan ( anonymous )

unfire... i believe that Mr. Mackey has taken this to a whole new level of humor... so vast and funny that its not really even humor...

Ego-obsessed? have you listened to the podcasts that we have put together? I believe that i am on one, maybe two, episodes with my music, and i believe the same for the kellys...

now back to the task at hand... i am not going to try and outwit you with stylish gibberish and i am definitely not an english major, nor am i a gradumated schooler... ma and pa still live down in the trailer by the river.... the idea is "DO YOUR RESEARCH BEFORE YOU TALK DOWN TO SOMEONE" and also "Why use Humor to defile someone?"...

whether it be about a crappy acoustic guitarist... or an "ego-obsessed" independent internet radio station

why would you consider thinking that it was cool to trash someone that is trying to do the community justice?

maybe its humor i dont understand... maybe i should watch "snakes on a plane" again... i heard that movie was really funny....

By moestradamus ( moestradamus )

There is one simple solution to all of this. Listen to the episodes. Count how many times a Kellys track has been played throughout the history. *I think* we have played 3 total. You want the clearest indication of what our disregard for the mainstream is all about? Have a listen to "I'm in the Grateful Dead" by Vincent VanGoGo in Episode 5.

This talk of ego-obsession is absurd.

-m

By moestradamus ( moestradamus )

Oh, and don't worry about me. I'm taking it quite well. I haven't laughed at someone this much in quite some time. Now those, are jokes.

-m

By DrGoo ( Dr. Goo )

Yay you guys have E beef. The only way this can be settled is through abounch of rap diss tracks.

I'm selling beats for 20 dollars a pop.

By moestradamus ( moestradamus )

hahaha You should hear Trevor flow. Maybe we'll pick up a couple. :)

-m

By bobservo ( Bob Mackey )

"Your "humor" doesn't work when there is no factual basis. Come on man, you didn't even make it to the end of the original article, where KELLY from THE KELLYS is quoted. And it says SHE. How can you rip on something that you know ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT."

i didn't quote her because she wasn't offensively lame. i honestly don't care if the kellys or rukus radio only play covers of barking dogs records; all i'm concerned with are the quotes from that article--they were the only things I made fun of, which you would know if you weren't so busy searching for injustice. next time i make fun of such obvious "indie" posturing, i'll be sure to do complete interviews and cite, as well as provide a complete annotated bibliography.

you guys said stupid things. i made fun of those things. get over it. you should be responsible for what you say, just as i'm responsible for what i say. the only difference is i'm TRYING to be funny.

By callica ( anonymous )

I think this article should be removed and Bob should be fired...just cause its a bulls*it article that dosen't serve any purpose. (T..you can send me that 20 now) haha

By TrevorQuillan ( anonymous )

"the only difference is i'm TRYING to be funny," maybe you should try harder next time.

By north_side_girl ( anonymous )

wait a second...

PEOPLE READ VALLEY24!

its a christmas miracle!

im so glad shoestring budget journalism can still exist in this town!

By north_side_girl ( anonymous )

and also...'bullsh*t article that doesn't serve any purpose.' obviously, no one read that fascinating piece about the amish. or the frank sinatra cover band.

entertainment writing is for the most part inconsequential BS. totally without a purpose but to fill print. assasination in pakistan? let's put pictures of kids with santa on A1! in today's journalism, it seems there can never be enough fluff.

By HYBRID ( anonymous )

HEY THERE BOB! Sorry to yell, I just wasn’t sure you’d here me way out here ‘on the edge’. Let me explain something to you. When looking out at ‘the edge’, distortion from the horizon can appear skewed. It's due to that ‘straight edge’ you’re on. If you just left that tunnel you write in, you’d be able to see the big picture. This isn’t about Moe & Trevor, it’s about something everyone can enjoy. Why would you try to ruin that?!
How dare you pass judgment on people for doing and sharing what they love. The arrogance of you! If you can pull yourself away from your millions of fans, you might learn something. Are you jealous because the Kellys have real talent and fans, and you’re just a poser?
This isn't an attack on you, by the way. This is me setting the record straight, because you opened your mouth about things you know nothing about. It’s not about ‘being edgy’, it’s about being yourself. You should try it sometime, instead of falling victim to the cookie-cutter stereotype. There’s an old saying, ‘if you’re not part of the solution you’re part of the problem’. These guys are trying to make something out of nothing, while you criticize. Guess who's the problem here? And yea, you were just pulling out quotes, right? But you totally missed the point. It isn’t about contradiction! I'll break it down so even you can understand. The idea behind Rukus isn’t self-gratification or hypocrisy. It’s about exposing people to things they haven’t heard or seen to further their minds past reality tv. And guess what, bright guy. You just made yourself an example because of your narrow-minded views. If you actually listened to Rukus Radio, you might have heard something cool. A year from now, when Rukus is blowing up, you’ll be in your basement hiding behind your pc, bloggin in the new year again.
And as for your little hypocritical comment...man, you just scream inadequacy. Are you that naive as to think success goes hand in hand with ‘selling out’? Making money for what you love while you share it with the world is called success, genius. ‘selling out’ is about compromising your morals and dignity for money and fame; say like, blog-bashing those with creative ambition. If you make a great product and people love it, it’ll be huge. As long as you stay true to yourself, it’s never selling out. You’d do well to remember that.
And don’t say it was all in humor. That’s a detractive statement and a meager attempt to save face for your uninformed opinions. Believe me, you look like the @$$, not them. Don't smear someone in hopes of getting a bit of attention. You remind me of that old Bill Murray and Richard Dreyfus movie. So what about you, bob? If the Kellys are the Wal-mart of music, you’re the Big Lots of writing.
Hey, man, I’m all for freedom of speech, but I’ll be right there to tell you WHEN you’re wrong. Class dismissed.

By bobservo ( Bob Mackey )

not reading that

By DrGoo ( Dr. Goo )

"
If the Kellys are the Wal-mart of music, you’re the Big Lots of writing. "

what you are says is that his prices are lower than the kelly's and he gives his employees better benefits?

By lennycrist ( Leonard Crist )

Not commenting about the quality of Ruckus, but there is a very legitimate argument for criticism of any kind:

If Bob thinks the Kelly's suck, or if he thinks ruckus is "lame," its called an opinion. Everyone has opinions and many people share those opinions. And opinions serve as warnings and recommendations for others.

Times are tight. I know I don't have the cash or the time to wade through all of the media out there. There are a lot of CDs, DVDs, books, magazines, newspapers, TV shows, movies, web sites, theatrical performances, artwork, pornography, etc. out there. Criticism helps you decide how to spend your time and money.

You rely on the opinions of others for many choices you make in media consumption. If you've looked at a 10 best or 10 worst of 2007 list this year and were influenced by that enough to check out a song or a movie (or not check out), then you too have personal experience with what i'm talking about.

I'm sure the director of Gigli thought he was "doing something positive for the community." I'm sure Paris Hilton thinks she is valuable and worthy of praise. But just because you are creating art does not automatically qualify you for "community savior" status with immunity from criticism.

If Bob thinks ruckus is lame and you disagree, fine. But you can't argue an opinion on someone's musical taste. It's fruitless.

For example, nobody is going to be able to change my mind regarding how awesome an album Abbey Road is. Likewise, I'm not going to waste my time debating them if they thought Abbey Road was pretentious hippie drivel.

In short, advice to all sides: YOU ARE WASTING YOUR TIME DEBATING THE FINER POINTS OF THE ABOVE BLOG. Nobody is right, nobody is wrong. That's the beauty of an opinion.

By bobservo ( Bob Mackey )

thanks for bringing this back to the realm of rationality, lenny.

By lennycrist ( Leonard Crist )

That's my job.

Call me Captain Common Sense.

Or Rear Admiral Rationality.

By moestradamus ( moestradamus )

The entire theory is beautiful. Except for the part where he has formed an opinion on something being lame WITHOUT EVEN LISTENING TO IT. That, is not a valid opinion. Sorry.

-m

By lennycrist ( Leonard Crist )

In the case of the above blog, though, Bob was criticizing what was said in an article, which he did read, making his opinion on the comments within the article valid.

Bob's is an opinion you disagree with, however, you are biased. It's about you. Of course you have a problem with it. I'm sure Paris Hilton has a problem with all the late night talk show hosts who make fun of things she says. And I doubt Jay Leno ever listened to a Paris Hilton record. He can still tell a joke about her based on the information he does have. And I doubt you get offended when Jay Leno makes fun of Paris Hilton.

If you take a step back from your personal involvement in the whole situation, you'd realize how pointless this all is.

If you don't like it, don't read it.

By HYBRID ( anonymous )

I agree that opinions are neither right nor wrong, but facts are undisputable. If you're going to say something is lame, fine, but back it up with reasoning and a concrete argument, not just your opinion. Because then you only have a flimsy opinion to grasp onto. You can't put icing on a half-baked cake, man. And nobody is above criticism, not even Rukus. But make it construction criticism, and use it to build up, not to tear down.

By bobservo ( Bob Mackey )

as i've stated about 100 times, i was only criticizing how certain people represented themselves in a valley 24 article. no facts were needed other than the quotes provided by sarah poulton. i couldn't care less about the podcast; the philosophy behind it, however (which was provided in sarah's article), is trite and insulting*. that's why i made fun of it.

* source: “ruKus radio provides musical alternative”

By Killer21 ( anonymous )

I'm sure that all local/regional/signed bands have to deal with critiques, good or bad, but Bob was WAY too harsh and slanderous. He must have a personal vendetta against these artists. David Fricke(Rolling Stone) wouldn't say these things about Milli Vanilli! The Kellys are actually pretty hip. (I saw them play w/ Incubus)They seem to have their acts together.

By lennycrist ( Leonard Crist )

If you really want to be a real and successful music artist, harsh criticism comes with the terrain. Money and fame more than make up for that though. If the Kellys and Ruckus really think they are going to make it, they may as well get used to criticism.

When they hit the big time, they are likely to have Perez Hilton MSPaint cum on their face or have tabloids write about the scandalous sex lives of their members.

I also don't agree that all criticism should be constructive and build people up. That's the kind of self-esteem psycho-babble that sets aspiring artists up for a big let down when they don't make it. And most aspiring anythings (musicians, actors, athletes) don't make it.

I and many people enjoy non-constructive criticism. It's entertaining. When you read about your least favorite TV show, you're not looking for the critic in his 500 words to write helpful tips on how the show could be better. You want to hear why it sucks. That kind of criticism is meant not for the people making the product but for the potential consumers of the product. The average Joe reading the above blog is not going to care about what it takes for the Kellys to improve. He wants to know how good they are now.

Seriously, grow a pair and get over it. If you can't take criticism, you shouldn't be in the public eye.

By HYBRID ( anonymous )

....wow, man. I'm not saying it all HAS to be constructive, i'm saying that's better than spouting slanderous negativity meant solely to tear someone down for no reason. Yes, criticism will always be there, and the kind you're talking about will always grab people's attention because they themselves are 'trite and insulting'. If you have nothing better to do than read garbage about other people's lives (or start some of your own) then it shows you have nothing going on in your own life and require compensation. And it says alot about one's character as a person.

You keep referencing Paris Hilton and how the media tears into her daily, but there's a big difference. She brought all this attention on herself through her trashy behavior. She's asking for it. All I see Rukus Radio trying to do is something positive. If it's not perfected yet, so what? That's the nature of the creative process.

And save the psycho-babble comment, that's just icing. Constructive criticism doesn't set people up to fail, it helps them perfect their craft so they WON'T fail.(well, not as easily anyway) Yes, any career in the arts or entertainment is a difficult one, but it's not inaccessable, it just requires persistance and skill.

By north_side_girl ( anonymous )

i must admit, i myself, usually being of a democratic nature, made a snap judgement about the kellys. she had one of those pretentious old-timey mircophones like billie holiday or elvis would have used, that only rockabilly bands are allowed to use today without shame. the only way she would capture the essence and passion of those singers is if the microphone was filled with heroin. Suburban angst just doesn't deliver the same punch that truckloads of unadulterated opiates did.

even so, i decided to be more fair. to my dismay, i discovered that there was more passion and energy delivered during the final crapaoke than at a kellys show. and more originality too. even yours truly has brought crowds to their feet during intense karaoke sessions (they're drunk, but STILL...). the kellys failed to ilicit any energy from me, just the five bucks from my pocket.

a band can be not your cup of tea, fine; dont waste time whining about them. but when they step over that third-dimensional line from music to telling you what you can say and think, its open season.

By bobservo ( Bob Mackey )

good point, northside girl, but i hope you noticed that i never criticized the kellys' music, nor the music that is played on ruKus radio; doing so without listening to either would be lame of ME. rather, i criticized the philsophy behind the beloved podcast. this will be the last time i write this fact.

but for a band/podcast to get so uppity and downright creepy over PHANTOM criticism, i'd say that there's a damn good chance that they DO suck. i won't ever know because i decided to never listen to either entity after reading those awful quotes in sarah's article. way to go, gents; you let the prestige of having a podcast go right to your heads.

By Moestradamus221 ( anonymous )

Lenny - Bob has finally gotten one thing right. There was no criticism about the band or our podcast. I have no problem with criticism. But if I can utilize some douchebag's comments to cause our website to BLOW UP, be sure that I am going to. And the dragging on of this whole thing is only continuing that free, and priceless publicity.

Bob - so, needless to say, thanks man. So, we won't be seeing you at the show, then? Damn shame. I'd really like to give you that opportunity to ask me whatever you want. Oh well.

Sarah - Your sh*tty karaoke singing is only going to il<b>l</b>icit anger and hatred. It's surprising that after they stood, they didn't chuck their beer bottles at the stage. Karaoke hurts the brain. Don't ever try to compare that with what a band does again. It's just wrong.

So anyway. To all of the Youngstown haters... a huge WHATEV. Catch you all on the flip. Thanks again.

Bridge the Gap tomorrow at Barleys! Be sure to come get your damn faces melted right the f*ck off.

-m

By TrevorQuillan ( anonymous )

Bob,

after that last comment i have finally realized a few random things...(but as always you wont answer a question so i am not expecting an intelligent response..)

1.) you will truly always be a sheltered, close minded, pompous, unintelligent, piece of work... (i put the ellipses there for you)

2.) i have wasted two days of my short life on such an ignorant being that i need not waste one more second on this, rather get back to doing what i do best... (and from what you "know" of me.. isnt very much, right?)

3.) what did Sarah do to you? why this angst against how she writes or what she quotes? (let me guess, you asked her out, she said no, now you're mad?)

thanks again
Trevor Quillan
signing off


oh and Bob... you are my hero for giving me 100 hits on my myspace for the past few days, just shy of the millions of readers that read your poorly researched half a$$ attempts to be cool...

Go F*ck Yourself...

have a good new year

and anyone who genuinely likes this dude...

you can go f*ck yourself too...

peace

"Moonbeam"

By Moestradamus221 ( anonymous )

Oh, and just a heads up, this beloved "podcast" will be a 24/7 streaming station as of next week. With all kinds of live shows lined up with many of the local music scene figureheads as hosts. You can check it out at rukusradio.net as soon as it goes live. I'll keep you all posted, to be sure.

And trust me, we will certainly be continuing to blast forth with a complete disregard for the mainstream, AND this quaint little underground network you all have yourselves entwined in.

By Moestradamus221 ( anonymous )

Bradley Nowell said it best when he said: And furthermore (Sara/h-?), I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if all four of them habitually smoked marijuana cigarettes. Reefers.

"i discovered that there was more passion and energy delivered during the final crapaoke than at a kellys show. and more originality too. even yours truly has brought crowds to their feet during intense karaoke sessions (they're drunk, but STILL...). the kellys failed to ilicit any energy from me, just the five bucks from my pocket. a band can be not your cup of tea, fine; dont waste time whining about them. but when they step over that third-dimensional line from music to telling you what you can say and think, its open season."

Wow. I can't believe I overlooked that whole last bit. I must have been too shocked by the initial karaoke reference to comprehend what I was reading. Are you serious with that? I have put more thought into the 3rd line of a chorus than you have about any song you have ever heard.

And I am telling no one what to think. I am presenting them with the options, and informing them of things that are happening. You think what you want. I enjoy this town. And I'm going to talk about it as much as like.

And for being the grammar, spelling and punctuation gurus that you all are, none of you like to capitalize things. Yeesh.

-m

By bobservo ( Bob Mackey )

heh.

By bobservo ( Bob Mackey )

ps- you are judging success based on myspace hits. think about this, then kill yourself.

By Moestradamus221 ( anonymous )

No, I am bassing it on the ratio of increased views of our product. It doesn't matter where it comes from. Simple marketing, my friend.

-m

By north_side_girl ( anonymous )

i dont hate youngstown. i love the little SOB. ive taken a bullet for it. well, my car did.

as for improper capitalization/punctuation, im a copy editor. i do it all day long. do people wear their mcdonalds uniforms at home for fun? no. this is my time to sneer at prescriptivism.

and karaoke is one thousand times greater than electricity, the wheel and the renaissance combined. definitely greater than bradley knowles quotes.

ive seen a zillion youngstown bands in the last 10 years. some bad, some good, some mediocre. i didnt like this band. some people do. im sure some people hate gil manteras party dream. im sure people hate the zou. they dont take pictures of the people who hate them and create myspace profiles to illicit sympathy from their myspace minions.

i like the idea of valley 24, though some of its content is questionable. i like the idea of youngstown, ditto.

By Moestradamus221 ( anonymous )

Yes, but to say that you have seen "more originality" at karaoke than what The Kellys have? That's absurd. We write our songs.

-m

By Moestradamus221 ( anonymous )

CORRECTION: It wasn't Brad's quote. It was a sample from <i>Beyond the Valley of the Dolls</i>.

I apologize.

-m

By Moestradamus221 ( anonymous )

EDIT: We write our songs. And then we license them to MTV. And receive royalties. That I am sure surpass the level of free internet access.

Seriously, though. G'night. I'm sure I will type to you all tomorrow. And Mr. Bury, hopefully we'll see you at Barleys! But are you paying your cover, and THEN I give you the $5? Or do I add you to the guest list, and THEN give you the $5? I just want to know the terms. And should I bring the mini-disk? You can ask questions for Bob after the show, if you like. lmk.

-m

By Will ( anonymous )

lol you guys need to lighten up. "your product" O.O?. Seriously though, you should try get on XMU or on a chain of college stations. YSU doesn't even really have a student body that reflects other colleges and their music scene. Bottom line is there nothing wrong with you guys (Rukus) doing what you are doing. Same goes for Bob writing his Blog. He writes you write. My point is your trying to make a splash, but the "ocean" isn't even a puddle here. Internet radio, a billion stations, and if the RIAA gets thier way it will cost you $200 per internet station for anyone who plays music that will warrant royalties. In my humble opinion, if you truly wanted to make it you would think in terms of location. Here, Mahoning Valley... not it, not even remotely close, think about it. Most of the bands in the area, in terms of being practical and rational, are just playing music for fun. So who are you testing yourself against? It would be a different story if there where enough people coming to shows in the area that the bands could support themselves on just the door or get paid in advance.(also known as being a professional musician) Very few are pro in the area, if any, say maybe Donny Iris, Glass harp etc. So I mean really, what's with all the fuss. If you didn't like Bob's blog then the best thing would have been to not reply. (imo) no reply = internet death.

-Cheers

By TrevorQuillan ( anonymous )

Will, Bob, & the rest of your D&D com padre's,

another second of my life has been wasted, reading more crap about nothing, thanks for playing...

(rotflmao)

"satan is my motor, hear my motor purr," -Cake

By callica ( anonymous )

The bottem line is Bob took an article and picked it apart..that is the problem I have with it..disecting sh*t is simply bull..and North side girl you seem to love to this too..I will leave ya'll with a quote from the 70's..back in the Moonbeam days.."I know that you believe that you understand what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize that what you heard was not what I meant"......yep lots of that on here. Rock On! Kellys Rock...Valley 24 Rocks and Local music is on the rise..and YES big bands can and have come from Youngstown...Asleep is on the verge right now!

By callica ( anonymous )

And just for thr record Donnie Iris is from Ellwood PA not Youngstown

By Will ( anonymous )

exactly, so even fewer bands that have "made it" are from the area.

By Will ( anonymous )

Let me know when your a working professional musician Trevor. Seriously you don't have to waste your time reading this, yet you continue to post? Ironic? Well back to my D&D game I go. L2PLY NOOB

By bobservo ( Bob Mackey )

please stop inviting me to your shows/out to dinner/etc. just because i made fun of you on the internet doesn't mean i have to attend a symposium on hurt feelings.

By Will ( anonymous )

for the record, I have listened to the radio show, its not bad, however, I still firmly believe if you want to do music for a living, then you move. Until this place turns in to Seattle in the 90's I will continue to think so.

By Moestradamus221 ( anonymous )

You gave the Lamey award to The Kellys, Bob. Not ruKus. Here in lies the err. I've quit inviting you. I know you won't show up. Supposedly Bury will be there. But I have to refun his $5 from a Cedars show a year ago. Whatever. I'm through with this.

-m

By TrevorQuillan ( anonymous )

Will,

never made it to the pro's yet, but i have been signed, i have toured, heck i even got sued for not putting out another album, and i know all about a growing scene, ive watched it happen in many different cities...

the problem with Y-town is it is still stuck in the 90's... thats why i am trying to HELP a generation and a city out of its dark ages... while simple f*cks keep trying to tear down what i have helped to bring up just one step...

dont get me wrong i know that i cant change ever mind in youngstown, nor can i "further every single mind in the world"... but dont tear me down for trying...

Negative, non-researched, unintelligent, pompous, arrogant blogs dont help the matter...

for me to be at peace with this whole thing, there is only one thing that i ask, BOB.... take your "direct shot" at me down... just in the event you dont know what i am talking about... your "correction"

also:

William, hit me up when you are a professional at something besides knocking people down... because as i see it, you and your partner, BOB, are not at all pro in writing... only giving LAME opinions of people who are trying to do something about this cultural wasteland... thats where you are pro my friend... check me when you arent conspiring with some "jack monkey, lot lizard, hill jack from stow"

"Moonbeam"

By Will ( anonymous )

Trev,
I was pro, 2 years east coast based out of philly, I hear what your saying and Kudos for trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill. I am not Bob's buddy, toured and recorded and paid my rent on it. That being said, I just understand why good musicans stay here that is all. :)

By Moestradamus221 ( anonymous )

Btw, is this the same will that gave ruKus the two-page color spread in the Trib in July? Just curious.

-m

By Will ( anonymous )

No, this is the same Will that had the unfortunate luck of Playing with a local band who singer is a pompous ego freak and got lumped in with that crowd..lol
and I am knock peeps down just depressed witht he scene here or lack of

By Moestradamus221 ( anonymous )

But there IS one here. And it's a blast.

And I bet all these cats hate that I start sentences with conjunctions.

Just watch the events on the v24 calendar. And go to some of them. You'll be surprised at the amount of talent that oozes from this city. Whether or not it makes its way out to Stow, I don't know for sure. Hope to see you around, Will. If you make it out to a show or see me out, please, introduce yourself.

-m

By Will ( anonymous )

Sounds like a plan man. laterz

By HYBRID ( anonymous )

Will, of all the people that have commented on this blog, you seem to be one of the rational ones. Yes, as far as the ocean goes y-town is a tiny puddle, but that's largely in part to people like bob and his cronies who make unsubstantiated points and have nothing positive(or even correct, for that matter)to say about any of it. If he wants to write trash, i guess he can do that. But as I stated earlier in this 'oh so proliphic debate', wanting to see drama and negativity rather than positive modes of expression says something about one's character. The reason everyone struggles with their dreams here is because nobody (like bob) gives it a chance. And sure location is a key factor, but growing up here I can tell you it's a very depressed area and finding a way out can be difficult. Not impossible mind you.

So far, every point i've made has been accurate and truthful, and yet, the only rebuttle I hear (from bob & lenny) is about Paris Hilton. They pussy-foot around everything and still go back to their origional points that still don't hold their weight. This just shows me their mindset, which is devoid of ANY common sense. Then you have 'esteemed' writers like Mrs. Karaoke, who have the audacity to put themselves in the same catagory as the Kellys. And btw, karaoke means tone-deaf sweetheart. And while i'm here, let drop some more knowledge real quick.

Setting aside opinion, there is still a difference between good and bad anything, in this case music. Certain elements are needed to create a song and if you follow the basic formula then it'll turn out ok. If you are musician you will understand this. Even if you don't like the Kellys musical preference, you can't deny their level of talent. It's still good even if you don't like it.

If you guys actually want to challange this and give me something even remotely adequate to think about, I'd absolutely love it. But so far, it's been Rukus 28 - bob and cronies, um, maybe 1. You are entitled to your 'OPINION' after all.

The sad truth of all this is, instead of bickering about something that's never going to be resolved, we could be pulling our talents, well, OUR talents, and make something happen. But it won't, because nobody sees things in color anymore, they think it's all black & white

HYBRID

By Will ( anonymous )

well said, btw Moe you should consider radio, you have a good "radio voice" or whatever they call that.

By HYBRID ( anonymous )

and btw, bloggin bob, I can't help but notice how many people have responded to this. 71 at last glance. That should tell you right there that Rukus has staying power. We blew this up, not YOU! I've read blogs on valley24 before, and have never seen such a response as this. I doubt that you've ever had this kind of response from all your articles COMBINED. What does that tell you? It tells me that a$$holes like you are always trying to ski up hill. Get over yourself and do something for someone else for a change. The fact that you post your real name shows me that you really crave the attention, and are probably still jacking it right now.

And don't tell me you haven't read this stuff, I know your type. You actually get off on this $#!t.

By bobservo ( Bob Mackey )

i don't care if rukus succeeds or fails. i just wanted to write about them--and i did. it's been pretty funny how everyone's getting so worked up. also creepy, due to the insane youngstown version of nationalism. apparently if you live in a city for 25 years and then move to another city with a good graduate school, you're a real benedict arnold. if that's not nutty, then i'm not sure what is.

in summation: i'll continue to write, they'll continue the podcast, and the world will continue to go on more or less undisturbed.

By Moestradamus221 ( anonymous )

But I would have to assume that in graduate school, there would be some focus on researching your topics. If not, I don't think we can classify it as a "good" grad school. And Kent isn't in Stow, man.

-m

By TrevorQuillan ( anonymous )

i am going to type words and just add the name BOB to them, then i am going to types some more words... and some more words.. and a just a little over here...

see Bob,
i know you dont read this, so why should i put the time and effort to even type when you wont answer a question, be a real man, or get up behind that dumpster with your creamy drizzled chin of yours and start answering the issue at hand... a few more words over here

what if i did this Bob, what if i just kept typing these words and made money off of them... sounds like a good plan... dreamers BOB? no, i think we are WARRIORS!!! the Militia is here Bob and i feel that we are going to take it over man... thanks for raising a ruKus BOB, but i still think you suck...

everyone is entitled to their own opinion right... so lets dive into creepy... and a few words over here that Bob wont read... and a couple here.. and a few more here...

bro you look like napolien dynamites twin brother retardo... now thats creepy... we stick together bob because we are a family of people that want to try and make something out of nothing.... and just a few more words over here that Bob will see just as filler so that he can come back with some witty response that has nothing to do with the issue again... where is your army man??? where are your millions of listeners??? and just another few words to fill this up so it looks big and he will be able to read them just a little bit longer... just a little bit longer.... just a little bit longer..... BAM!!!! ORGAASM!!!!!!!!

all in all, we are all just bricks in the wall...

moonbeam
i kinda like that... thanks

ps... just wanted to add a few more words for BOB

By academeaddict ( anonymous )

Bob,

Kent State doesn't have a good graduate program in English, and you know it. Coming from someone accepted for further graduate work at Harvard and Vanderbilt and now attending a second/third tier university for a Ph.D. (Oh, how I've got the supergrumpz) with a stipend more than what you'll make in the next fifteen years, I can say with all honesty that you're so full of yourself that you can't see the bigger picture here: you talk crap about everyone and everything because you're upset about your miserable, little life. And you want other people to go, "look at Bob! Oh that Bob!" But really what people say is, "What a freaking douche. That guy has no life."

Oh, and for the record, writing articles for your university's newspaper doesn't really count as "being published." Call us when you're published in a peer-reviewed academic journal, or when you have a novel published by Bantam Books like the amazing Chris Barzak.

Sincerely,

The girl who knew you when you threatened to blow up Mooney

By danager ( anonymous )

This was written so well I thought I would post it here and in the after life or somewhere on another page or something, anyway here goes!

After reading all this I have to admit there is a terdload of humor throughout. Kudos to those that took the time to read these comments, Oh! and Opinions.
Is it not the job of the "journalists," lol, to spark an interest, to start a conversation among individuals? And, (there goes that conjunction) is it not the job of the artist to do the same thing just utilizing a different platform? We all have the instinct to want to either sway towards another peron's idea/s or to get another person to sway towards our idea/s. That's how we all more or less get along.
Ahh, that's a bunch of horse terds! At least somebody is DOING something in this @$$hole of the earth we call Youngstown, oHIo. Opinions are like @$$holes everybody's got one and what I think (which doesn't really matter) is - THE ONLY BAD PRESS IS NO PRESS! So yall keep writing and hopefully "they" will keep reading.

"Peace, Love, Dope!" G. Carlin
See yall!
PS I hpoe I seplled evreytinhg corerctly.

By danager ( anonymous )

Bridge the Gap at Barley's TONIGHT baby!
9PM

DaBoondox

The Kellys

Off the Rocker

S-Pomp

Da Kreek

BRIDGING THE GAP BETWEEN ALL GENRES OF MUSIC!

$5 cover

18 and over

drink specials!!!

By TrevorQuillan ( anonymous )

Bob,

looks like you are now a uni bomber too? add that to your resume' pal... Gay Basher, Raciest, Pompous @ss, Terrorist... oh yeah i almost forgot, Lame, Wanker, and also King of all Douches

MoonBeam

By TrevorQuillan ( anonymous )

See ya at Barleys Kids!!!!

its gonna rock

Bridge the Gap and Further YO Mind

By IWillShitYoungstown ( anonymous )

Why can't we just all agree?

Yes, Mackey's writing is usually lame. However, this post was hilarious and very insightful.

Yes, Mackey can be a pompous a$$. Seriously, he gets way too egotistically caught up in writing for low tier univerisities, and attending their programs to get a Masters Degree. MS is the new HS diploma.

Yes, Sarah Poulton is an atricious writer. She probably only has her job because she is cute.

Yes, that article made Ruckus look extremely lame.

Yes, the Kelly's are probably extremely lame.

And ironically egotistical. Why bother gloating and bragging about how in a few years you will be rich and famous? You sound like a retarded three year old. Anyone can talk the talk. Let's just wait and see.

I seriously doubt you are going to open anyone's mind here. Unless, of course, the minds are of the typical alcholic, unemployable, uneducated, untalented, and self-important type generally found in the youngstown-wareen regional area.

Also, I find the Kellys behavior extremely immature and unprofessional. Someone doesn't agree with you? Grow up and don't make ad hominem attacks.

By IWillShitYoungstown ( anonymous )

Also, how can the Kelly's claim to be for unity when they are prejudiced and make fun of peope that go to Imbibe and karaoke?

That is just hypocritical and close-minded.

By bobservo ( Bob Mackey )

i'm only responding to academeaddict, aka Alisa Balestra, because she's involving my personal life, which is completely irrelevant to all of this (ad hominem is a big word, but i think she knows what it means). yes, kent's graduate school is not the best graduate school in the country, but it is better than ysu's graduate school. i know this because i took classes at ysu's graduate school.

above all, i'm not interested in academic pissing contests because academia is the thing i'm doing as a job (though i do like it), while comedy writing is something i'm doing because it's something i love. i'm not concerned with peer-reviewed journals or big-time publishers because i'm writing for people i respect and admire, and, believe it or not, i'm getting respect and admiration in return. the fact that (and here is my own pissing contest) my something awful articles are read by 500k-700k people is a feat that astounds me, but i don't let it get to my head. if i did, i wouldn't have written for valley 24 for free for 3 months, and i certainly wouldn't be working for the $45 bucks a month they give me now.

just because someone is opinionated doesn't mean they have a sad, empty life. and just because my life is not similar to yours doesn't mean it's lacking anything. in fact, if i was a dour, overachieving grump like you, i'd probably hate myself almost as much as i hate you! take care of that extravagant stipend! in the meantime, i'll be enjoying the posh stow lifestyle.

champagne kisses and caviar dreams,
- bob

By jokerbowl ( anonymous )

It seems to me that Bob's point is proven each of the 31 times that Moe and/or Trevor a.k.a. Moonbeam has posted a comment on this story. Talk about getting a life! Get off Valley24 for ten seconds and do something responsible with your lives, guys! Did you two sit around for two or three days just keeping up with the comments here? and then picking on a girl having a blast at karaoke? get some class or WHATEV. I will never see the Kellys because of that comment. OR was someone just mad that Sarah aint givin up the puntang with them?

Anyhow, chances of "furthering" the minds of people in youngstown is really a far cry for you, so goodluck with the world. It's too bad - what I've read of Kelly's lyrics - they're good. Too bad she has a bunch of as$holes behind her.
I heard a funny rumor that Moe left his family to keep on with the band. (and I think Ive seen his wife- she's frickin' hot!) I hope that's not true...or maybe it's time for me to step out with Moe's wife!
and really, a bad grad school is better than no grad school.

By Moestradamus221 ( anonymous )

Ok, that's awesome. Drag some "funny rumor" you heard into all of this. You all win the Lamey award as far as I'm concerned. I'm not even going to address your rumor in any way further than telling you to leave your half-cocked ideas about my personal life out of this. Me and my bass guitar are kicking your ass regardless of how terrible of a family man you think I am. So fuhgeddaboudit. Bridging the gap, baby! Thanks to EVERYONE who DID make it out to support them some Youngstown tonight!!

-m

By RebeccaRoo ( anonymous )

Sounds like someone doesn't enjoy the taste of what they've been serving! (in response to Bob's response to academeaddict).

You'll remember that you were the one who brought up the "good" grad school comment, so you can't really attack her for bringing that up. As for the last bit, I'm sure it's probably a matter of public record.

Really, I hope she's wrong. I hope you don't have a miserable little life. I hope you go to sleep every night feeling fulfilled and hopeful, because everyone deserves that - even (maybe especially) all the people who have commented on both sides of this blog (though you may disagree). You SHOULD do what you love, be it for free or for mad amounts of money. But lets put this in perspective. You made fun of the Kellys et al regarding their music and the promotion of it. This is what they love (I assume, or otherwise they wouldn't do it).
Alisa and others have now made fun of you for doing what you love. Hurt? Well then, I'd say that you're pretty much square.

And I wish I had gone to the show last night, I heard it was pretty good!

Happy New Year!

By bobservo ( Bob Mackey )

i claimed the graduate program was "good" because that's my opinion of kent state. i researched it before i went, got recommendations to go there from ysu professors, and am overall having a great time there. the "good" was a value judgment, made by me. and the only reason i brought it up was because some people were making a big deal about me leaving youngstown. i gave my reason why: kent has a better gradaute school for english.

say what you will about me being pompous, but, unless prompted, i don't go on about my acoomplishments--unlike alisa, who thinks people actually care about her big stipend. i know people don't care about my life, which is why i don't write about it. you'll notice that my blog is the only one on here that isn't about the blogger's personal life.

By RebeccaRoo ( anonymous )

I never called you pompous. And I'm not complaining that you don't care about your personal life. I don't care if or why you left Youngstown. I probably would, too. I just happen not to agree with you about most of the stuff you've written here, or how you've written it. So like I said, Happy New Year.

By IWillShitYoungstown ( anonymous )

For the record, anyone who brags about a rather large graduate stipend is full of $hit and has other obvious issues (stipends are anything other than rather large. Unless you think 20K is a big deal, then I will weap for your ignorant soul).

Also, bragging about getting accepted to Harvard but not going? Talk is cheap. Prove it. But you probably can't, so way even bring it up. It's irrevalent. And young lady, what are you even getting a PhD in?

By jokerbowl ( anonymous )

At least we're on a much more interest topic now. Grad school is a good thing...wherever you may go. Are we going to egg each others grad schools next or would we just be cruel to each other's mascots?

By HYBRID ( anonymous )

Boy you just don't get it at all, do you bob? do you even take in what you read or just mentally paraphrase everything? Nobody ever got on you for LEAVING youngstown, it just pi$$es people off that you're BASHING youngstown. Get the difference? As we've been trying to convey to you, think before you speak. Most of your rebuttles are totally devoid of the question at hand, or totally ignored altogether. And you're probably right, nobody cares about your life, so it's much better to stir up other people's, right?

By HYBRID ( anonymous )

And jokerbowl, yes egging the lovable team mascots would be a crime. Do you know how hard it is to get egg yolk out of fur? I know it's not quite as classy as, say, dragging someone's personal life into things, but it'll have to do. One can only hope than YOUR contribution to this discussion will continue to enlighten us all. What, with all those insightful comments and steadfast moral values....

By DTown ( anonymous )

I've never seen one man's opinion do so much damage in an online community.

---DTown
DK ALL DAY

By IWillShitYoungstown ( anonymous )

DTown, I fail to see how challenging opinions and assumptions doesn't build a stronger community.

By bobservo ( Bob Mackey )

with one blog, i hold the fate of MILLIONS.

By bobservo ( Bob Mackey )

note: the above comment was satirical in nature. its intention was to point out the lunacy of an inconsequential comedy blog angering so many people over an inconsequential podcast.

this educational post was brought to you by bob mackey: i'm lovin' it (tm)! keep your eyes peeled for definitions of the following words:

satire
joke
humor
laughter
comedy
criticism
plagiarism

remember, just because you know something is a word, that doesn't mean you know what it means! i'm also available for consultation if you're not sure if something is a joke.

By IWillShitYoungstown ( anonymous )

<p>My friend, you have crossed borders of civility... </p>

<p>I AM NOT</p>

<p>BOB MACKEY'S LACKEY</p>

<p>GO F*ck YOURSELF</p>

By IWillShitYoungstown ( anonymous )

And what self-respecting musician quotes sublime?

By youngstownfrown ( anonymous )

the kellys lyricism makes the spin doctors look like blonde redhead

By youngstownfrown ( anonymous )

i saw the flyer for the last kelly show. it said bring a jacket the patio will be open.

By north_side_girl ( anonymous )

if we still had the walruss we would print the transcripts from this as an example of the vacuum of free speech and ideas in this town and the of encouragement of delusions that keep things in the same era as traficants suits.

but of course we had to hitch our wagon to a crooked lawyer...

By moestradamus ( moestradamus )

Funny, the Walruss! printed one of the very first articles EVER about the ruKus. Seems you guys got it then! Ahhh, how it all comes back around. Oh, and stay tuned for the definition of a humorous blog. It's coming VERY soon. We just have to wade through a couple technical issues. Oh, and Happy New Year!

-m

By moestradamus ( moestradamus )

Youngstown's GREAT in Moe8!

By RebeccaRoo ( anonymous )

In response to YoungstownFrown: "the kellys lyricism makes the spin doctors look like blonde redhead"
Could ya clarify that for me?

By HYBRID ( anonymous )

"remember, just because you know something is a word, that doesn't mean you know what it means! i'm also available for consultation if you're not sure if something is a joke."

Ok, fine. Lets tackle this from a different angle. You keep going back to this notion that all you're doing is humor and satire.....for entertainment purposes. Except for the fact that none of it was funny. Not even a little. So fine. Maybe I need YOUR consultation, seeing as how you hold the fate of millions in your grasp!!! So tell me how one man can be so omnipotent and hilariously whimsical at the same time? And if you can, please consult me on the finer points of education and 'higher' learning. I guess I don't count as I only have a masters, a bachelors, and 10 years of experience in my field. I am truly greatful, however, for your shining insight on what is actually funny and what isn't, because YOU obviously know more than the rest of the world who has done and seen things you only write about.

And with names like 'IWillSh!tYoungstown' and 'Youngstownfrown', you guys really show how reputable YOU are. Anything you say loses all validity the moment it hits the page. So I have to ask, what community do you speak of? Oh, is that the community where everyone hides behind a computer screen and writes trash about bands they never heard before? Or is that the society that sits back and criticizes other people's work and ambition while doing nothing of substance on their own? Either way, sign me up! Can I borrow a cup of sugar, too?

And north_side_girl, delusions like yours are what kept people like Traficant in power so long. I know, i know, it's hard being another sheep in the flock, huh? Maybe it's time to sheer away some of that bourgeois* and find an origional voice before you follow the rest of the lemmings off the cliff.....

* i'm also available for consultation if you're not sure what any of these words mean.....

By spoulton ( Sarah Poulton )

"Yes, Sarah Poulton is an atricious writer. She probably only has her job because she is cute."

Thank you, I am cute.

By bobservo ( Bob Mackey )

"And what self-respecting musician quotes sublime?"

The same one who uses star wars analogies and expects to be taken seriously.

"...We are the rebel forces to your empire."

I think Trevor also quoted Kevin Smith but I couldn't tell because my brain won't stop screaming.

By moestradamus ( moestradamus )

I love Star Wars. And Galaga. And The Matrix. I'll tell everyone. In fact, wait, I already have. Wayyy before this post. Those things aren't too hard to figure out if you just listen, or pay any attention whatsoever to ruKus.

And Sublime was bitchin'. I'll defend that one too. And Reel Big Fish, Goldfinger, Zebrahead, NoFX, or a wide array of other 90s punk rock bands. But sorry, I refuse to defend Limp Bizkit. Other than 3-dollar bill. That album was sweet when it came out.

Who do you all quote? Jim Morrison? Standard. Janis? Typical. Maybe The Beatles? Or The Stones? Or maybe Zeppelin? Expected.

And for the record, I have no need to be taken seriously by any of you lame-Os.

-m

By IWillShitYoungstown ( anonymous )

Yet another winning post from the Kelly's! But seriously, making fun of other musicians or fans for their musical tastes? I thought you were all about building bridges. All I see here is you defending your questionable musical likes.

Also can you talk about anything else other than $hitty music?

By moestradamus ( moestradamus )

Come on hipsters! Ditch this square road and blast off for Kicksville! Star Wars is the new Paris Hilton!

This post is not from The Kellys. It's from Moe Angelo. And by the way dumbasses, there is NO APOSTROPHE. It's not possessive, and it's not a contraction for "The Kelly is (something)." Come on.

And I wasn't bashing your musical tastes. You started with the musical taste bashing. I was asking who you QUOTE. I happen to love all of those artists except for Jim Morrison, really. But especially The Beatles. The White Album is probably one of the most amazing pieces of art ever created.

Read a little closer next time before you go spouting off.

-m

By IWillShitYoungstown ( anonymous )

Kelly's, I try to be well rounded and also quote outside the musical paradigm. Music is a big part of my life. But cmon Kelly's, I try to "further my mind" through other avenues of culture, too.

By HYBRID ( anonymous )

says the pot to the kettle....

By IWillShitYoungstown ( anonymous )

Except I dont ramble like a teenager stoned on weed. Cmon guys, if you really want to take Youngstown to the next level, then try a little harder. Expand your limited minds. Take some criticism now and then. Realize that a podcast is not the Avant Guard. Music is not the world, just a small part. Step up. You can't be a shining and defiant example of Youngstown culture, with the way you all are going. It's not just Youngstown we're fighting for. The future demands it.

By bobservo ( Bob Mackey )

open hostility towards anyone with a slight difference of opinion isn't going to get anyone very far.

By moestradamus ( moestradamus )
By bobservo ( Bob Mackey )

you truly are the wesley willis of satire. and music.

By moestradamus ( moestradamus )

Rock and roll McDonalds!!! F*ck yeah. Think he has a label?

-m

By TrevorQuillan ( anonymous )

listen to www.rukusradio.net or you can just go fuck yourself

trevor quillan

By moestradamus ( moestradamus )

And just in case you missed it...

http://forums.valley24.com/read.php?4,23

-m

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